||ITALY: Prophetic Words and Intercession
THE 'BURNING' and 'TURNING' OF ITALY !
A visitation of Fire towards repentance.
Glywn McInnes - New Zealand - 05-01-06
While walking through a section of the city, on the 3rd day of January, this New Year (2006);-came across the stump of a tree that had recently been cut down. The remains were close to the ground, just inches left above the grass. I felt to photograph the stump from a 'bird's eye' position as there were various interesting patterns, where the chainsaw had gouged.
Upon the computer, and with an enriching of the colour of the timber, the patterns showed what looked like flames billowing out of a 'landscape-type' formation, and a debris-filled 'rift'.
Below this, a line of demarcation, and from that there was a representation of a 'boot';- very similar to the lower end of the shape of the country of Italy;- but, with the difference that the 'boot' faced in the opposite direction to that shown on the maps !
Devotions this morning, ( 5-1-05 ) spoke on Isaiah's commission to speak to the people, and in the last three verses of chapter 6, (11-13) the Lord told him to speak,-
" until the cities are laid waste and without inhabitant ;- etc";- and at verse 13 there is talk of as a tree, " whose stump remains when it is cut down, so the holy seed shall be its stump."
While it is recognised that this passage may refer to Israel, there appears enough slack in the chapter for the nations of the world to be encompassed, in which case Italy will be in God's 'sights',- due for a visitation of FIRE, to turn the nation around toward Him !
" Keep on hearing, but do not understand;- keep on seeing, but do not perceive !"
" So it is with my people of this nation, that you have been dull of hearing, your ears full and fat with worldly pride, you would have those who lead you to speak nice things;- to speak 'Peace, peace' when there is none !
You allow the priests rule by their own power, and you would have it so; - because, to fear Me and to live under the threat of repentance would seem too costly for you to bear !
Those who lead your country, can only see as far as their feet walk,- and each walk in the secret vices of darkness; paying mouths to remain silent, and doing those abominations that turn even My stomach when they are brought before Me !
So I shall visit the earth you live on, and great shall be my wrath towards you, as you hide amongst that which blocks your ears to the truth, and you take shelter behind that which blinds your eyes !
You also take comfort from those who say that they have made for you a covenant with death, and live under an agreement with Sheol, that when the overflowing scourge passes through, it will not come near you !
For you have made lies your refuge, and have hidden yourselves under falsehood !
I am sending My Fire upon your land and upon you !
The Fire of Cleansing ! The Fire of Melting ! The Fire of Lighting !
The Fire for lighting the way past your blind eyes towards repentance ! The Fire for melting that which blocks your ears from hearing My truths ! The Fire of cleansing that is in reality, the Blood of My only Begotten Son ;- the Fiery blood that will wash you clean from the impurities garnered by centuries of error, deceit and traditions, and bring you out from that place of man's rule and understandings !
Yes ITALY, I am coming to turn you around by the flame of My fire to bring; - Holiness to your nation; - Truth to those who would lead you down the wrong path; - Clarity of vision to see and know My ways; - and hearts of Flesh, rather than the stone hearts that strengthen your foreheads against Me !
Prophecy for ITALY
Turin FEB 2004
On a recent visit to Turin I was sitting praying when the Lord gave me a vision over the nation. I have seen similar ones before but this one was extremely vivid and intense. As I was seeing these things, I had such a feeling of a birthing going on, a deep travail in the Spirit and a struggle for that birth to happen. I have always felt that Turin is indeed a place where things are birthed although this vision affects far more than Turin itself.
“For a long time I have been silent, I have been quiet and held myself back. But now, like a woman in childbirth, I cry out, I gasp and pant... “
First I saw Italy rising up and heaving as if she was writhing in pain. The struggle was so intense. She was gasping and groaning for breath. Finally there was a birthing and I could see not one but two babies. In the Spirit I saw that one of the births was of the Lord but that the other one was from the enemy. The Lord reminded me that He had said to me last year that Italy was wide open; the problem being that she is now as open to the Spirit of God as to other influences which could harm and kill her.
“He told them, “ The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few. Ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore to send out workers into his harvest field. “”
Then I was shown the harvest fields in Italy and they were indeed very ripe and white. As I watched though, the harvest was in danger. From the south came a large army with large curved scimitars and with their swords they cut down the fields, in some places leaving blood on the cut corn. I could see the symbols on them and felt it was a great threat from Islam. This army seemed to move right up the east side of the country but as it came north it seemed to halt. I did not see what stopped its advance. As it spread out though, I saw that it had managed at one point to cut the country in two.
In the north I could see the shape of the cross appearing over the Alps and the north of the country. It seemed to me that the vertical part of the cross extended from the Alps and went down the west of the country, stopping just short of Rome. The horizontal part went through the major northern cities until it met Venice. There it seemed to me that there was a question mark, something yet to be resolved in the Spirit. I felt that the city of Venice was wide open and defenceless and that here there would either be a cutting off of the progress of the move of God or an extension. It depends on how Christians react. I could see as far as Trieste and felt that Trieste risked being lost again to Italy for a while from danger out to the east.
Two revivals were going on for the Lord at this time. The northern and southern ones were very different and I felt that for a while they would not be able to come together because of all this upheaval going on. People from the south were forced north and swelled the cities in the north. It seemed a time of great political, economic and natural upheaval.
I was shown Sicily in more detail. I saw that the upheaval had cut her off at least temporarily from the rest of Italy, south and north. It looked as if the economic situation had worsened but just as I was thinking that this would be disastrous for her, the Lord gave me the word of the widow and the jar of oil in 1 Kings 17:7-16. I know that for those who depend on the Lord that He will give enough oil to live. The prophetic word will direct those who have been faithful, as this widow had and give strategy at this difficult time. Sicily became like a fortress for a while. She protected her shores but was as if under siege. I saw her wearing a crown and knew she would come through in the end. I saw two churches in the island - at opposite sides however. The second one I saw is still in the future but will be important as she rises up. I felt that the second one would be important for prophetic warfare. I also saw some seeds being carried on the wind towards Sardinia. These are sown from Sicily and are to put watchmen on the island for the difficulties ahead. I did not feel that this was necessarily large churches but key groups of praying people who would play an important watchman role.
I was not shown Rome in detail but saw that the government would have to move from there for a while and would relocate for security reasons to the cities in the north, moving around from one city to another.
After the vision ended, I looked at the map to see in more detain where all these places were and had two further thoughts. Two cities stood out as needing more prayer -besides the ones mentioned already that is. I saw Bari and felt she was in danger from natural as well as political change. Then my attention was drawn to Genoa. I kept hearing the words “double minded”. It was as if the city had one eye on the sea and one eye on the situation inland and was watching out for her own best interests. She was trying to keep a foot in two camps and this could be very dangerous for her. The Lord’s people here I felt needed to pray for integrity for their city or she could fall into the hands of the enemy.
I was not given a chronological order for these events or any idea of how long they will last. We prophesy in part and I am certain that there is far more than this. Now is the time to stay alert like wise virgins and pray for strategy. The Lord has His plans for Italy and the doors He opens, no man can shut!
Italy Prophetic Intercession
Debra & Marvin Westbrook
Italy Prayer Journey
Never Say Never!
To understand this part of the journey, you must read Acts 10:9-16 below. Bear in mind this is a longer email so I pray that you would be patient and read it in its entirety for I feel that it will minister to many of you.
The next day, as they went on their journey and drew near the city, Peter went up on the housetop to pray, about the sixth hour. 10 Then he became very hungry and wanted to eat; but while they made ready, he fell into a trance 11 and saw heaven opened and an object like a great sheet bound at the four corners, descending to him and let down to the earth. 12 In it were all kinds of four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. 13 And a voice came to him, "Rise, Peter; kill and eat." 14 But Peter said, "Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean."
15 And a voice spoke to him again the second time, "What God has cleansed you must not call common." 16 This was done three times. And the object was taken up into heaven again. NKJV
Without going into great deal, we see that Peter had distinct reservations in responding to God's commands given him through this vision. It was outside his range of thinking that God Himself would, through a vision, command him to minister unto a Gentile which was so contrary to the Law and Peter's sound wisdom. Yet, God kept insisting by presenting it to him several times. Sometimes God will call us to do things that are outside of our range of understanding, yet God calls us to obey without question and without hesitancy. He gives great grace to empower us in our task and great peace to know that despite our inability to completely understand God's plan, we trust our Lord and follow in His ways. This is exactly what I was to find out on my 3rd day in Rome.
"My last day in Rome was very specific from the Lord - let me back track to yesterday afternoon where I was sitting in front of San Giovanni in Laterano. As I left the cathedral, I was directed by Holy Spirit to go across the street to a building which housed the Scala Santa or The Holy Staircase. This totally surprised me because on my last visit in January, I was totally unaware of this building, yet it had quite obviously been there all along.
Good lesson - how often God will veil things from us and even veil us from others until His divine timing! So in walking into the building and seeing the Holy Staircase, here is what I discovered about these steps. Whether it is true or not, I do not know but many surely climb these steps on their knees in prayer, petitioning God for various needs. The story behind the steps goes like this..............
Around the year 355, the Empress St. Helen, mother of Constantine, although almost 80 years old, wanted to go to Jerusalem to find the relics of the Passion of Christ, especially the cross of His sacrifice. Her zeal was crowned with success: the Empress brought with her a fragment of the Cross of the Redeemer and that of one of His companions in pain, as well as other important relics of the Passion. Among them, according to the tradition, there was the Scala Santa or Holy Staircase that therefore, over the course of centuries has been the object of much deep devotion. There are 28 marble stairs, covered with wood for protection. Christians from around the world, climb these stairs on their knees praying for various things on the way up to the top.
Daily, hundreds of people from all over the world climb these steps on their knees in prayer and petition before God. As I looked at these steps I held back, just watching and thinking, "Why would people do this? Of course it is beautiful, but why go to all this trouble just to reach God? His salvation is a free gift, His grace empowers us and His love sustains us - everything we need is in Him and has been finished on the cross - true liberty, freedom- Christ in us the hope of glory."
So I looked on innocently, but still feeling a seed inside of me which said, "How ridiculous!"
Suddenly as I started to leave, I heard the Holy Spirit say to me very clearly: "Do it! Climb the stairs on your knees while praying!"
I immediately felt like Peter in Acts 10............................I looked at the stairs and said quite strongly "No God! This can't be You!"
I quickly headed for the door and left before God could even begin to speak any more to me. This reaction on my part totally surprised me! We never really know what is in us until presented with a challenge and a command from our Lord!
I headed back to the hotel hoping that what I believe I had heard was only me. But I was soon to find out, it wasn't me, but God!
As the day went on, I could not get rid of the feeling that I was to climb the stairs. It would not go away - over and over, whether I was in the hotel room or walking, I kept feeling strongly impressed that I was to climb the stairs on my knees in prayer. And over and over, I responded,
"Lord, this can't be You! How humiliating! How Catholic! How ridiculous!" In reality what I should have been saying to myself was "Debra, how self righteous of you to feel that you are above this!" Hey for those of you who know me, I am just being honest here, whether you agree with me or not!
I suddenly just sat still before the Lord and asked Him as to why I would be doing this because as the day pressed on, I knew that it was God and I had to be obedient. The Lord impressed upon me that He would give me 28 Scripture verses, one for each stair as I climbed on my knees to declare, decree and proclaim on each step as a prophetic proclamation over Italy and the Catholic Church. Here are the verses of Scripture that God gave to me for those of you who are interested:
1) Eph 2: 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
2) John 3:16- For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
3) Zech 4:6 This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: 'Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,'
4) Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
5) Jer 29:10-12 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.
6) Isa 53:5 But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed.
7) Hab 2:14 For the earth will be filled With the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, As the waters cover the sea.
8) Joel 2:28 "And it shall come to pass afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see visions.
9) Jer 31:3 The LORD has appeared of old to me, saying: "Yes, I have loved you with an everlasting love; Therefore with lovingkindness I have drawn you.
10) Jer 33:3 'Call to Me, and I will answer you, and show you great and mighty things, which you do not know.'
11) Rom 8:15-16 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out,"Abba, Father."
12) Phil 3:10-11 that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death,
13) 2 Cor 12:9 And He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness." Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
14) John 8:32 And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
15) Luke 1:37 For with God nothing will be impossible."
16) Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let him who hears say, "Come!" And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.
17) Zech 2:5 For I,' says the LORD, 'will be a wall of fire all around her, and I will be the glory in her midst.'"
18) Matt 6:10 Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven.
19) John 6:44-45 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.
20) John 17:3-4 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
21) John 6:35-36 And Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.
22) John 8:12 Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life."
23) John 10:9-10 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
24) John 10:11-12 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep.
25) John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
26) John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
27) John 15:1 "I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser.
28) John 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."
Proclaiming these Scriptures would be taking back ground in the Spirit - How much? I am not sure - I am only obedient to my Father's call!
All day long, I knew I had to go - at 2 pm as the Spirit pointed out to me! God can be quite specific and immediate obedience is required! My pride kept rearing up and to be totally honest, I was looking for a way out. Yet, the bottom line is this - I wasn't climbing the stairs on my knees to gain anything from God but to prophetically obey what He was telling me to proclaim in intercession, step by step. This hit me hard for I felt somewhat humiliated - truthfully, it felt 'beneath me' to do something like this! How self-righteous is that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I truly had to repent and simply say "Okay Lord, send me. I will do this for Your glory!" Reminds me of something an older minister in the Lord used to say to me when I was going through some stuff........"It's good for you Debra!"
I struggled so hard inside of me to do this, though, and I came to this strong conclusion - "I'm not dead enough yet!" So Lord if you brought me to Italy to kill off my pride as well as to intercede, have at it........I love you Lord!"
Now before any of you say either "I can't see myself doing that!" of "I would immediately obey!"......don't be too sure! One never really knows until one is in a particular situation, what one will do!
So in arriving at the Holy Staircase at 2 pm, I simply stood and looked up at the 28 stairs and then looked at all the people climbing on their knees as well as the audience of onlookers taking pictures and such. I walked forward without looking back and simply knelt down on the first step side by side with 4 Young Catholic nuns from Africa. The easy thing to do would have been to rush through these steps and get it over with but it seems that God had other thoughts towards me.
How like God this actually is! He literally hemmed me in - 4 Catholic nuns on my right side, 2 Italian ladies crying on the steps in front of me, a rail to my left, and several people behind me lost in their prayers. I was caught in the middle with no where to go but up. There I was... so I decided to take up my cross and to do this with utter abandonment as if my intercession was a key to the nation of Italy. Giving myself in wholehearted intercession, I climbed to the top and with each step, I declared each verse with a freedom and joy in an obedient spirit. I asked God to bring this nation and its people into a full salvation, with the power of an outpouring of Holy Sprit to be poured out upon young and old. I prayed that a remnant would arise of passionate wholehearted lovers of Jesus Christ.
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